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		<title>By: Educational Consultant and College Planner &#124; Great College Advice &#124; Educational consultant informs students how to meet with college admissions representatives in their hometown.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Educational Consultant and College Planner &#124; Great College Advice &#124; Educational consultant informs students how to meet with college admissions representatives in their hometown.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Remember that colleges want to admit students that they feel are going to come, so having a face-to-face  interaction with the person who is going to review your file is a great way show that you are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also add from fairly recent experience that admissions officers, particularly with private universities (i.e., those who really want your money), will also be doing their dances with you.  If you express an interest, they&#039;ll probably respond.  However, don&#039;t be misled to think their response is anything more than marketing.  They probably don&#039;t really know anything about you that really matters and won&#039;t look at your admissions packet or be able to compare it to the pool of applicants, no matter how early you submit it, until shortly before time to make a decision.  If you&#039;re putting on a really good &quot;first impression,&quot; it&#039;s only natural they&#039;ll be even more positive.  That does not mean you&#039;re in.  You&#039;re just being strung along to give the college the biggest and best pool of applicants from which to accept and reject students.

Regardless of anything else, you&#039;ve got to have the grades, test scores, and extra-curricular/leadership records from highschool to be realistically in consideration by the particular school&#039;s admissions office.  If you don&#039;t and it&#039;s early enough in your highschool career, consider another highschool where you can stand out.  It frankly does little good to go to a very demanding highschool, struggle, have poor grades and no extra-curricular life to show at the end.  It is the rare situation in which a college will care enough or know enough about where one went to highschool to value the distinction between a 2.7 from super-hard prep and a 4.0  from regular decent public HS.  With similar test scores, they&#039;ll take the 4.0 public school kid every time.  The other alternative is to look at other colleges and recognize that a 2.7, even with pretty stellar SATs isn&#039;t going to get you into Johns Hopkins or Stanford.  Not that it&#039;s impossible--you might be that good a dancer and have other valuable, marketable attributes--but it&#039;s extremely unlikely, so don&#039;t get your hopes up, when your stats don&#039;t merit it, even if it seems like the dance with the admissions officer is going beautifully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also add from fairly recent experience that admissions officers, particularly with private universities (i.e., those who really want your money), will also be doing their dances with you.  If you express an interest, they&#8217;ll probably respond.  However, don&#8217;t be misled to think their response is anything more than marketing.  They probably don&#8217;t really know anything about you that really matters and won&#8217;t look at your admissions packet or be able to compare it to the pool of applicants, no matter how early you submit it, until shortly before time to make a decision.  If you&#8217;re putting on a really good &#8220;first impression,&#8221; it&#8217;s only natural they&#8217;ll be even more positive.  That does not mean you&#8217;re in.  You&#8217;re just being strung along to give the college the biggest and best pool of applicants from which to accept and reject students.</p>
<p>Regardless of anything else, you&#8217;ve got to have the grades, test scores, and extra-curricular/leadership records from highschool to be realistically in consideration by the particular school&#8217;s admissions office.  If you don&#8217;t and it&#8217;s early enough in your highschool career, consider another highschool where you can stand out.  It frankly does little good to go to a very demanding highschool, struggle, have poor grades and no extra-curricular life to show at the end.  It is the rare situation in which a college will care enough or know enough about where one went to highschool to value the distinction between a 2.7 from super-hard prep and a 4.0  from regular decent public HS.  With similar test scores, they&#8217;ll take the 4.0 public school kid every time.  The other alternative is to look at other colleges and recognize that a 2.7, even with pretty stellar SATs isn&#8217;t going to get you into Johns Hopkins or Stanford.  Not that it&#8217;s impossible&#8211;you might be that good a dancer and have other valuable, marketable attributes&#8211;but it&#8217;s extremely unlikely, so don&#8217;t get your hopes up, when your stats don&#8217;t merit it, even if it seems like the dance with the admissions officer is going beautifully.</p>
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		<title>By: Educational Consultant and College Planner &#124; Great College Advice &#124; Educational Consultant Discusses Pros and Cons of the Common Application in College Admissions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Educational Consultant and College Planner &#124; Great College Advice &#124; Educational Consultant Discusses Pros and Cons of the Common Application in College Admissions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] really know if the kid is interested?  (Answer:  they do this by taking into account &#8220;demonstrated interest,&#8221; but this phenomenon makes the admissions process more complicated for the college side,  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] really know if the kid is interested?  (Answer:  they do this by taking into account &#8220;demonstrated interest,&#8221; but this phenomenon makes the admissions process more complicated for the college side,  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Educational consultant offers advice on how to have a successful visit with an admission counselor.</title>
		<link>http://greatcollegeadvice.com/dance-with-an-admissions-officer-six-steps-to-get-you-admitted-to-college/comment-page-1/#comment-3724</link>
		<dc:creator>Educational consultant offers advice on how to have a successful visit with an admission counselor.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] counselor, it is important to be prepared.Â  Follow the advice we have previously posted in â€œDance with an Admission Officerâ€ and â€œThe Art of College Fairsâ€.Â  Be prepared to have a conversation, ask detailed and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] counselor, it is important to be prepared.Â  Follow the advice we have previously posted in â€œDance with an Admission Officerâ€ and â€œThe Art of College Fairsâ€.Â  Be prepared to have a conversation, ask detailed and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Art of College Fairs</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Art of College Fairs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to leave your hometown. In a previous post, we talked about how to establish a relationship and â€œdance with an admissions officerâ€. College fairs are a great place to start and here are a few tips to get you off on the right [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to leave your hometown. In a previous post, we talked about how to establish a relationship and â€œdance with an admissions officerâ€. College fairs are a great place to start and here are a few tips to get you off on the right [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the article Mark.  Can&#039;t say I&#039;ve ever put anything in such memorable terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the article Mark.  Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve ever put anything in such memorable terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanna Get Into College? Show the Love!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanna Get Into College? Show the Love!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote a very popular article a while back with some advice about how to &#8220;dance with an admissions officer.&#8221; I offer some tips about how to show the love to an admissions officer, and let that person know [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wrote a very popular article a while back with some advice about how to &#8220;dance with an admissions officer.&#8221; I offer some tips about how to show the love to an admissions officer, and let that person know [...]</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
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		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne,
Thanks for visiting my blog and providing your perspective.  It&#039;s very helpful.

I suppose two words of clarification are due.  First, I would never advocate that students make nuisances of themselves.  I know some over-zealous kids can be so in-you-face that they end up turning off their potential dance partners.  I find a lot of my clients are the opposite, however:  they need encouragement to connect with college admissions officers.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve had the experience of visiting a high school--and not one kid shows up.  

Second, public and private institutions are different in their attitudes toward the dance.  Certainly in Colorado, it is nearly impossible to find a person to contact in the admissions offices at University of Colorado and Colorado State University. 

But just down the road at Colorado College, admissions officers there have made it clear to me and my in-school colleagues that a Colorado high school student has next to no chance of admission unless they make a visit and (preferably) schedule an interview.  And most of admissions officers at private colleges value the visit and the contacts very, very much in deciding whom to admit and whom to reject.  

I could also say that the most selective colleges in the land are less likely to want to dance with you very much:  they have so many suitors, that one more really titillate them all that much. 

So, students:  know your dance partner!  As Anne suggests, you can do no harm to ask whether your partner wants to be wooed.  Usually they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,<br />
Thanks for visiting my blog and providing your perspective.  It&#8217;s very helpful.</p>
<p>I suppose two words of clarification are due.  First, I would never advocate that students make nuisances of themselves.  I know some over-zealous kids can be so in-you-face that they end up turning off their potential dance partners.  I find a lot of my clients are the opposite, however:  they need encouragement to connect with college admissions officers.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve had the experience of visiting a high school&#8211;and not one kid shows up.  </p>
<p>Second, public and private institutions are different in their attitudes toward the dance.  Certainly in Colorado, it is nearly impossible to find a person to contact in the admissions offices at University of Colorado and Colorado State University. </p>
<p>But just down the road at Colorado College, admissions officers there have made it clear to me and my in-school colleagues that a Colorado high school student has next to no chance of admission unless they make a visit and (preferably) schedule an interview.  And most of admissions officers at private colleges value the visit and the contacts very, very much in deciding whom to admit and whom to reject.  </p>
<p>I could also say that the most selective colleges in the land are less likely to want to dance with you very much:  they have so many suitors, that one more really titillate them all that much. </p>
<p>So, students:  know your dance partner!  As Anne suggests, you can do no harm to ask whether your partner wants to be wooed.  Usually they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to dismiss your advice here, but I&#039;d like to add that all of these points do not apply to every institution.

I&#039;m an admissions counselor, and we do not grant points toward admissions when a student makes contact with us. And in fact, this advice has become a problem for us as more students seek to make one-on-one appointments with us, not realizing that it doesn&#039;t gain them anything but a conversation. Everything we have to say to most students is contained within our regular visit session.

With us and most other colleges facing the same problem, just ask. We can tell you right away that contact with us doesn&#039;t get you &quot;points.&quot; Though you can probably figure it out for yourself, to some extent: we&#039;re a large public institution, and I would suspect many others in our category are in the same boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to dismiss your advice here, but I&#8217;d like to add that all of these points do not apply to every institution.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an admissions counselor, and we do not grant points toward admissions when a student makes contact with us. And in fact, this advice has become a problem for us as more students seek to make one-on-one appointments with us, not realizing that it doesn&#8217;t gain them anything but a conversation. Everything we have to say to most students is contained within our regular visit session.</p>
<p>With us and most other colleges facing the same problem, just ask. We can tell you right away that contact with us doesn&#8217;t get you &#8220;points.&#8221; Though you can probably figure it out for yourself, to some extent: we&#8217;re a large public institution, and I would suspect many others in our category are in the same boat.</p>
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