Twitter Weekly Updates for 2010-08-29
- College admissions advice for HS Senior via Twitter Chat August 24. http://bit.ly/cEtLvX #edu #highered #College #
- @elizabethonline where ya goin'? in reply to elizabethonline #
- @JonellMartin what sort of college advice you need? in reply to JonellMartin #
- College admissions advice for HS Senior via Twitter Chat August 24. http://bit.ly/cEtLvX #edu #highered #College #CollegeChat Pls RT! #
- A new way of ranking colleges? http://nyti.ms/9zahzv #
- @Goal2025 You might ask @zacbissonnette his views on whether anyone should think of college as an "investment" in reply to Goal2025 #
- @CTCLColleges How much recruiting do you folks do in China? in reply to CTCLColleges #
- RT @derekdevries: Don't Trust College Rankings When Choosing a School http://t.co/DvfIikq via @lifehacker #highered #
- RT @CrudBasher @sgermeraadIncredible article about status and prestige in #highered Definitely a must-read. http://bit.ly/bGhqBR #
- @shaylinemma yeah, the process is hard. Let me know if you need help from a pro in reply to ShaylinEmma #
- Chat with this college counselor tomorrow 9 pm ET on #CollegeChat http://youtu.be/1NCAuIMB0ks #
- Join College Expert who shares check list for high school seniors on #CollegeChat TOMORROW 9pm ET http://bit.ly/boIcbi #
- @Education_Grant College kids need laptops in the classroom so they can Tweet and FB instant message in class. in reply to Education_Grant #
- @IvyEyesEditing Thanks…me too! in reply to IvyEyesEditing #
- Join me for a live Twitter chat at 9pm ET. HS Seniors: Get ready for college!
#collegechat # - oh, jeez…not ANOTHER set of college rankings….ENOUGH already! http://huff.to/9YgKB7 #
- I like this! Rank colleges by the availability of parking spots. http://b.globe.com/atRjb4 #
- @jchan027 But the same schools always come up in almost every ranking list. What's up with that? in reply to jchan027 #
- RT @indianweb2: Unigo Unveils Their First-Ever College Rankings http://bit.ly/c9kI8X Yippee! More Rankings! #
- @Melissadams88 Definitely the app process and financial aid stuff is harder. College is a breeze by comparison. in reply to Melissadams88 #
- @Melissadams88 Definitely the college application and financial aid process is tougher. College is a breeze by comparison! in reply to Melissadams88 #
- Join me for a live Twitter chat at 9pm ET. HS Seniors: Get ready for college! #collegechat #edchat #college #
- @Matt_Teddy good luck with that college application! in reply to Matt_Teddy #
- @jchan027 Precious few. I have clients in China who want a "top 100" grad program, but they look at the UG rankings. Weird. in reply to jchan027 #
- @lankycrayola you crack me up, Skye. Join my twitter chat tonight at 8 pm CT #collegechat Tell 'em like it is! There's Hope for you yet! in reply to lankycrayola #
- RT @CollegeChat: Tonight join #collegechat w/ College Admiss Expert @collegeadvice check list for HS seniors 9pm ET http://pitch.pe/82607 #
- @CollegeSurfing Great. Hope to see you there. in reply to CollegeSurfing #
- Tonight join me on #collegechat . Let's get seniors ready for college! 9pm ET http://bit.ly/boIcbi #
- @Kiraa45 good luck with your #college application! in reply to Kiraa45 #
- @FirsttKlass it doens't have to cost a lot. Are you a good student? What state you in? in reply to FirsttKlass #
- @Smileyln17 you might want to check out TweetChat tonight at 9 pm ET…college advice for senors #collegechat Free college advice! in reply to smileyln17 #
- RT @RebeccaLacko: 70% of college admission reps receive a FB "friend" request from would-be students. Delete Spring Break photos 1st #
- Yikes. Only 2 hours left! Tonight join me on #collegechat . Let's get seniors ready for college! 9pm ET http://bit.ly/boIcbi #
- Looking forward to a good tweet chat tonight about getting seniors ready for college. Let us know who's here! #collegechat #
- Ten things high school seniors can do to prepare for college admission. Join us in 15 minutes! #collegechat #
- Hello, Theresa…glad to be invited. We'll discuss AT LEAST 10 things…maybe more like 50–high school seniors are busy, busy! #collegechat #
- Even if seniors are busy, it's not to late to get started. Plenty of time to get everything done. Just gotta get organized!
#collegechat # - 5 minutes? I'm flexing my fingers…ready to give some tips to seniors to help them plan for college. #collegechat #
- @CoachForADHD Welcome to this tweet chat. Glad to "meet" you! I'll be you work with many seniors.
#collegechat in reply to CoachForADHD # - @TauhidChappell thanks for joining this tweet chat! Eager to trade ideas with you about how to get seniors ready for college. #collegechat in reply to TauhidChappell #
- @campusbound Hi, Fuji. Welcome. Looking forward to trading thoughts on how to get seniors ready for college. #collegechat in reply to campusbound #
- q1. Sticker price is just that. A sticker. Think of buying a college like buying a car: your price ain't what's on the sticker #collegechat #
- q1. or like airline fares: everyone going the same place, but everyone on the plane paying a different price. #collegechat #
- Q1. Seniors need to think about "their" price…which can be very different from what's quoted on a college's website. #collegechat #
- @CollegeBlogs Hello, Lynn. Nice to meet you here. Love your books! #collegechat in reply to CollegeBlogs #
- For more information about who I am, check out this link to my bio. #collegechat #
- @campusbound yes, you're right. But the theory is only a theory. And one that ends up wrong… #collegechat in reply to campusbound #
- @CollegeBlogs I love College Navigator, too. You can find them here: http://bit.ly/arrCnT #collegechat in reply to CollegeBlogs #
- @AlyssaHenry Good move, Alyssa. Even some of the most expensive colleges can end up being cheap for some students. #collegechat in reply to AlyssaHenry #
- I like to tell my students to think like Cinderella: let the suitors bring you gifts to attract you to their kingdoms..
#collegechat # - Q1. let colleges name *your* price before you agree to get engaged…! #collegechat #
- If you'd like to learn more about me, you can check this out–a video: http://youtu.be/1NCAuIMB0ks #collegechat #
- @CollegeBlogs College Board is helpful, too. Also remember tuition is only part of the total cost of attendance. #collegechat in reply to CollegeBlogs #
- @TauhidChappell Totally agree. Expensive doesn't mean "better"
#collegechat in reply to TauhidChappell # - Q2 Financial aid has several components, including grants (or scholarships, or discounts), loans, and work study. #collegechat #
- Q2 But I can't really think of "loans" as financial "aid". Loans are really just you paying the same amount later. #collegechat #
- Q2 Some colleges work hard (and have pledged) to reduce student debt. http://bit.ly/cjPYM3 #collegechat #
- Q3 Renegotiating aid can work, but only in some circumstances. Both colleges have to really want you! #collegechat #
- Q2 Some schools are also good about not forcing loans on low income students: http://bit.ly/aaUX0P #collegechat #
- @CollegeBlogs Colleges will negotiate for the kids they want…bad. Those who barely got in will not get more generous aid. #collegechat in reply to CollegeBlogs #
- Colleges will sometimes brag about how much money they offer in "aid"–but a big chunk of that "aid" is really loans. #collegechat #
- Q3: EFC is "expected family contribution". It's what the government says you should pay based on family income and assets. #collegechat #
- There are two ways of calculating EFC: the government's way and the "institutional" way. #collegechat #
- Q3 The institutional way is basically how colleges tell students their price. No 2 institutions are exactly the same #collegechat #
- Q3 if U want to calculate your EFC in advance, use calculator for both Federal and institutional formulas http://bit.ly/bUtxHO #collegechat #
- @TauhidChappell Just because you get an EFC, doesn't mean that you MUST pay that price. You still have choices! #collegechat in reply to TauhidChappell #
- @shashmc True, EFC doesn't change, but doesn't mean colleges will honor it in the same way. #collegechat in reply to shashmc #
- @Russell_Golowin Exactly.Colleges use the EFC as a starting point.Then they decide how much they want you…by lowering price. #collegechat in reply to Russell_Golowin #
- Every senior should know his/her EFC. Not just parents. Kids, too! Then decide if you even want to pay what EFC says U must. #collegechat #
- Q4 In tough economic times, students and parents need to think about their financial strategy.http://bit.ly/afx9BC #collegechat #
- @shashmc yes, they have to cover EFC. But loans are not "aid". They are just delayed payments. #collegechat in reply to shashmc #
- Q4 To pick colleges that will offer the lower prices, choose ones where you are at the top of the academic heap. #collegechat #
- Q4 Colleges that are tough to get into (generally) will offer less aid. #collegechat #
- A "reach" college is rarely the best financial choice, unless it's one of the most wealthy (and selective) colleges. #collegechat #
- RT @TauhidChappell: Q4: Look for instate states first to save you a lot of $$. Out-of-state can be costly. #collegechat in reply to TauhidChappell #
- @Russell_Golowin Right…some out of state public colleges may slash prices for excellent, talented students. #collegechat in reply to Russell_Golowin #
- My best advice is to look toward colleges where you are in the top quartile, academically. #collegechat #
- @KPEdConsultant Thanks, Katherine! If you want to learn more about Katherine (my colleague) go here: http://bit.ly/aKgdpa #collegechat in reply to KPEdConsultant #
- Q5 Early decision is a binding contract: "If you accept me, I promise to attend." #collegechat #
- Q5 Early action is a timing thing: you send your app in early, you get a decision early. No promise implied. #collegechat #
- Q5 problem with ED for financial aid is that it's harder to get the lowest price when you promise to "get married" if he asks.. #collegechat #
- RT @Russell_Golowin: @collegeadvice Meaning "I promise to attend at any price".
YES! #collegechat in reply to Russell_Golowin # - Consider ED or EA if you really don't worry about financial aid, and if you are positively "in love" with that school. #collegechat #
- @akilbello Technically you can get out of ED if aid is not "sufficient". But who decides what is sufficient? #collegechat in reply to akilbello #
- If you go ED, you better know how high a price you are willing to pay, and how many loans you are willing to take out. #collegechat #
- @firstgenfilm Yes. Go back to EFC, though. Just because you are "expected" to pay doesn't mean you must or should. #collegechat in reply to FirstGenFilm #
- omigosh…so hard to keep up with the conversation…you guys are AWESOME! #collegechat #
- Q6 first off, let's be frank: I hate these SAT and ACT tests. http://bit.ly/dCPQZK #collegechat #
- Q6 I usually say "three times, you're out." Don't let test scores get you in a tizzy. #collegechat #
- Q6 with some kids, I tell them once is enough. If they're not into the competition thing, then bag them. #collegechat #
- @akilbello No, the tests aren't that BAD, but they do not predict anything useful, do not measure intelligence or success. #collegechat in reply to akilbello #
- @SkiManilow If your student did well, then great! He can use them to his competitive advantage. Tests are a credential. #collegechat in reply to SkiManilow #
- So the answer to Q6 is: it depends on the kid. Some will work and work to raise scores. Others wld rather sing, run, or study. #collegechat #
- RT @firstgenfilm:SAT was originally created to broaden the pool of applicants. Alas, test prep frenzy has created a monster #collegechat in reply to FirstGenFilm #
- Q7. Apply to at least one school. Seriously. There is no magic number of schools to apply to. #collegechat #
- Q7 It also depends on how you stack up against schools you are applying to. But always remember, you can attend only 1 college #collegechat #
- Q7 at least one of your schools on the list must be a safety…you are CERTAIN to get in. And love that place, too. #collegechat #
- Q7 focus your college list on your "sweet spot"–where colleges are looking for the kind of student you are. #collegechat #
- @SheldonWordNerd It's not necessary to apply to a reach school, in my opinion. You have to apply to a school you want. #collegechat in reply to SheldonWordNerd #
- RT @akilbello: apply to 23 schools then youre sure to get in.. and include schools in mexico FUNNY! #collegechat #
- Q7 most kids apply to too many schools because they can't make decisions. I tell kids to make decisions BEFORE applying. #collegechat #
- @SkiManilow That student applying to 23 needs to do better thinking, better planning, better deciding. #collegechat in reply to SkiManilow #
- @akilbello I really don't think there is a magic formula. Some of my kids apply to 12. Some apply to 2. #collegechat in reply to akilbello #
- and back to our earlier discussion…financial considerations should be the first consideration..for most everyone. #collegechat #
- RT @welcome2college: I like the term "where I can succeed" schools. RT @akilbello: I hate the term "safety" school. #collegechat #
- Q8. Seniors–keep going all the way to the finish line. Don't let up senior year. #collegechat #
- More on "how many colleges should I apply to?" http://bit.ly/a38fDO #collegechat #
- Q8 beware of senioritis. http://bit.ly/a8vUvl It can be detrimental to your future. #collegechat #
- RT @akilbello: formula for number of colleges to apply to: family income x hrs free time x level of crazy. FUNNY! #collegechat #
- RT @Goal2025: Q8 It matters very much more than getting in. Its about preparing for the rigor of college. #collegechat #
- Q8 Most admissions people I talk to stress that high school is preparation for the rigors of college. So take it to the end! #collegechat #
- RT @akilbello: Q8 pt 2.. ive hard quite a few stories of rescinded offer.. so yes you have to keep working #collegechat #
- Q9 Ideally, seniors should spend a good chunk of their summer preparing. Oops…summer is gone. Ack! #collegechat #
- Q9 I tell my students to get done by Halloween. Then we back up the planning timetable to suit. #collegechat #
- Q9 Such good planning doesn't always work if the student is a dyed-in-the-wool procrastinator, though. #collegechat #
- Q9 Procrastinators need to make themselves a schedule, and discipline themselves to stick to it. #collegechat #
- RT @SheldonWordNerd: Q9 At least do the research for what schools you want to apply to in the summer #collegechat in reply to SheldonWordNerd #
- Some of my students even finish their essays BEFORE they have a solid list of schools to which to apply. #collegechat #
- @Russell_Golowin Good point. Start with the financial strategy. Kids and parents need to talk abt this B-4 building a list. #collegechat in reply to Russell_Golowin #
- Teacher recommendations are really important, so ask for them carefully and politely. http://bit.ly/2Mjzbu #collegechat #
- @CollegeChat Q10…so you mean we haven't covered everything? One thing to emphasize: this is not a life or death situation. #collegechat in reply to CollegeChat #
- RT @KPEdConsultant: I tell my students to get to the point where they feel they put their "best foot forward", then let it go. #collegechat #
- Q10 Too many kids look at this as the ultimate turning point. The pivot of their lives. It is not. #collegechat #
- RT @akilbello: price tag of a school should be the FIRST consideration in where to apply #collegechat in reply to akilbello #
- College is an important decision, but not a "life or death" decision. U will love it. You will learn. Your success depends on U #collegechat #
- RT @akilbello@SheldonWordNerd: Chill out! U have same chance as anyone to have successful life no matter where U go to school. #collegechat #
- RT @welcome2college: @CollegeChat Q10 Try to have a little fun w the process. There are so many amazing options out there! #collegechat #
- No, no…thank you @collegechat. Let's hear it for Theresa (sound of wild applause…!)
#collegechat # - Thank you everyone for your outstanding contributions to this chat. #collegechat #
- @Russell_Golowin Thank YOU for participating! #collegechat in reply to Russell_Golowin #
- @akilbello Thank you, too, for the great conversation. Really fun and informative. #collegechat in reply to akilbello #
- RT @Goal2025: Thanks a lot everyone, great chat tonight. #collegechat #
- @Cyrasdaughter Thanks for participating! Enjoyed it very much. #collegechat in reply to Cyrasdaughter #
- @CoachForADHD @campusbound really enjoyed sharing ideas with you! #collegechat in reply to CoachForADHD #
- @CollegeChat Thanks again, Theresa! #collegechat in reply to CollegeChat #
- @CoachForADHD You might be asked by college to pay more or less than EFC. It's a guideline. A starting point. Not a promise. in reply to CoachForADHD #
- @CoachForADHD @WriterChick47 EFC is a guideline. You may be asked to pay more, or pay less. EFC is not a promise. Which stinks. in reply to CoachForADHD #
- @eduthought Sorry you missed it. The transcript is here. http://ht.ly/2uAfx I also do speaking engagements. Low price for twitter buds. in reply to eduthought #
- @CoachForADHD U R most welcome! in reply to CoachForADHD #
About the Author
Mark Montgomery
As a former professor, administrator, and high school teacher, Mark has the knowledge and skills to counsel students as they make the transition from high school to college.
