Weighted or Unweighted GPA?
How do colleges calculate GPA in the admissions process? Some students take courses that “weigh” more than others, which can boost their GPA and their class rank. But how do colleges treat these different weights when they read your application?
Most colleges will consider both your weighted and unweighted GPA, and most high schools will report both to the colleges to which you are applying.
Colleges want the weighted GPA to reflect your class rank, as well as the relative rigor of your high school course load. But they will not use this weighted GPA in comparing you with other applicants.
Most colleges will use the unweighted GPA as the best reflection of your high school performance. As they say, “an A is an A.” A B in an Advanced Placement course does not mean that you somehow really got an A in that course…you still did B work, according to your teacher. So while the weighted GPA will reflect the relative rigor of your high school coursework, the unweighted GPA reflects your actual performance in those courses.
So don’t be lulled into complacency when you get a “B” on that AP history test by telling yourself that B work equals an A in a less rigorous course. The fact is that colleges will pay closer attention to your unweighted GPA than to an average that is artificially inflated.
Furthermore, many colleges today are “stripping” GPAs of any fluff courses, such as gym, art, music, business, or other courses not considered to be sufficiently academic in nature. Padding your GPA, therefore, is not really possible by getting a straight-A average in chapel or woodworking or glee club. Colleges want to know how well you do in your academic core subjects: English, math, science, social studies, and foreign language.
Bottom line: your GPA matters.
PS: You might want to look at my post on how to calculate your “real” GPA.
Mark Montgomery
Montgomery Educational Consulting
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Hi my name is emily. i am a junior in highschool and quite worried about getting into college. my freshman yeat i did not care about grades at all. i recieved quite low marks. last year though i was on honor roll all four quarters and recieved an A or B+ in every course. but they were CP classes. This year im in 3 honors classes ( Algbra II/ trig. english and history) and 3 CP courses including chemistry.. i have three A+’s two A’s and a B and B+. if i keep up those grades this year. i think i might be able to get a 3.0 GPa by then end of this year weighted and a 2.9 unweighted. will any colleges take me?
Hi, Emily.
The answer is yes, there will be colleges that “take you.” Not all colleges, of course, but many very good ones, especially if you continue your upward trajectory. College admissions folks know that not all student figure out school at the same moment, and if you are able to mend your ways and improve your grades in a consistent drive for improvement and excellence (including the increased rigor….which is great!) they will likely take that as a sign that you can do college level work with equal vigor and success. You may need to explain some the inconsistencies in your record (plead “temporary insanity” in 9th grade!) on your application. But focus on the positive: you’ve turned yourself around. Many colleges will be happy to accept you.
If you need help identifying which colleges would be best for you to apply to, let me know and I’d be glad to help. In the meantime, keep your nose to the grindstone, learn as much as you can, read lots of books, and you’ll be fine.
Good luck!
Hi,
I am a junior in high school and have started off to a rough start. I have all B’s in my honor classes. I am taking AP Biology and AP Chem. I ended up with a B in Biology and C in Chemistry. I was considering letting my chemistry grade drop and focus on getting A’s on all my other classes. Would that be a smart move considering that AP class grades are not accounted for in the GPA? I am not aiming for Ivy Leagues. I am looking at colleges such as Emory, Pitt, Duke, NYU…
Thanks.
Hi, Sophie,
Have you talked to your teachers and counselors? What do they say? I think it’s bit early in the year to abandon ship, especially if your teachers encourage you to stick with the challenge.
Furthermore, if you aspire to Emory, etc., you will need those high-level courses. If you drop to the lower level courses, you will no longer be competitive. Your GPA may be better, but these schools will note that you have not taken the most rigorous course load available to you.
The rub is that competitive schools want good grades in the toughest courses. That may be little comfort, but it may also be truth. I suggest you get in to talk to your teachers about how you can bring up your grades, and work your tail off. If nothing else, you will be doing what you need to prepare yourself for college. If you back off, you’re only doing yourself a disfavor in the long run.
As you go along, if you need help identifying colleges that will value you for who you are (no matter what your grades in AP Chemistry!), send me an email or give me a call. I’d love to help.
Mark
My son has narrowed his college search to a few liberal arts colleges and two public universities. His preference (heavily influenced by me) is a liberal arts college. He is caught in a bit of a Catch 22 re: this weighted/non-weighted GPA. A liberal arts college of high interest will consider a weighted GPA coming from his college prep high school for financial aid award but his high school “has a policy” of not providing weighted GPAs. This could mean a few thousand dollars more in aid per year and would make a significant difference for his loan load.
I am extremely frustrated by this situation. Do you have any suggestions for me? Thanks. Sue
Hi, Sue.
I’m not sure what the problem is. Do you mean the college in question will conclude that your son is “uncompetitive” for a scholarship, merely because his high school does not supply a weighted GPA? Not all high schools are the same, nor do they report GPAs in the same manner. Colleges have ways of eyeballing different GPAs calculated under different high school regimes. Are you sure that the liberal arts college in question is completely inflexible? If so, what college is it so that we can all know which one is being so goofy? I’d be happy to call them up and find out what the scoop is!
Thanks for writing in!
hey mark. i spoke to you before about my concern about getting into college. i want to be a nurse but everyone tells me it is very tough to get into. i volunteer at a hospital every week and have been on honor roll consistantly since sophomore year. i go to a vocational school and im in earlychildcare but i have only been there this year which is my junior year.my two other years i was at a public highschool. i have all A’s and one B. i was thinking of taking some courses at a community college.. is this a good idea? help please. thanks.
Hi Mark,
When colleges consider applicants, how heavily (if at all) do they take into consideration school rank? (Both nationally and statewide.) My school is #1 in my state and in the top 50 in the nation, but I only have a 3.3 unweighted / 4.3 weighted. What sort of colleges would I be capable of gaining admission, and more importantly what sort of scholarships am I likely to be granted? I do a lot of service hours, but how many are considered enough? (I’m asking for generalizations with this, I realize not all are the same.)
Hi Ally,
As far as rank goes, it definitely depends on the college and the high school. More and more colleges are realizing that many high schools are doing away with rank altogether or reporting where students are in the class based on percentage (top 25%, top 10%, etc.) Most colleges that consider rank will do so in the context of how competitive your high schools and how challenging your curriculum is (how many AP and Honors course you have taken). It is difficult to assess what types of colleges or scholarships you would be qualified for without viewing your entire application profile (transcripts, curriculum, testing, etc). As far as community service goes, only you can determine what is enough. Colleges will be looking to see that you are passionate about your service and have maybe taken a leadership role as a result. You should not be doing so many hours that it is hurting your academic performance.
Hope that helps!
Sincerely,
Katherine Price
Educational Consultant
Hey Mark,
I am a senior this year at an IB school in Florida. I am taking a complete curriculum of IB courses (7 classes), each of which is also an AP course. This means that I will have 11 to 12 AP/IB exams this coming spring. Though I consider my courses rigorous and highly beneficial, I am worried that my slightly unimpressive grades will drown out the rigor of the courses. My GPA is 3.28UW and 4.28W, and I fall in at about top 35% of my class. I’m looking very closely at relatively prestigious Universities (UVA, Tufts, Emory, George Washington) and I am wondering how well I stack up against their admissions standards. I guess my main question is, Do IB courses really give me a leg up in the admissions process or are they simply a weight on my shoulders (haha).
thanks…
Hi Mark,
I’m a junior in high school right now. I’m in two AP sciences, and only 1 on level class, and I’m having a very rough time maintaining my grades. My unweighted GPA is a 3.5 and my weighted GPA is a 3.78. Are they too average to be competitive?
I used to be in ESL my freshman year. Then, I take only Honor literature after that year. Will colleges take that against me?
I really like Duke and Emory University. Are they out of my reach?
Mark,
I’m a Junior in High School and I’ve had a 3.417 cum. the past three years. I don’t understand why my GPA isn’t going up because my quarter GPA’S for the past two years have been 3.8 and 3.9. Should my GPA be going up?
Hi Mark,
I’m currently a Senior in high school with a 3.29 unweighted GPA. By the time I graduate, I will have taken six AP Courses. Right now I’m taking AP Literature, AP Spanish Literature, and AP government. I’m really worried, because I didn’t have the focus I have currently as two years ago and that really messed with my GPA. My top choice is NYU and I’ve applied to Emory, Chapel Hill, UMiami, Vanderbilt, as well as University of Texas at Austin, Auburn, Alabama, and Colorado as my safeties and range schools. However, my dream is still to go to NYU. Do you think I have a fighting chance? My SAT score is am 1880, not very good either. However, I am the Senior Class President and an active member of the National Spanish Honors Society and the Walton Choir Officer. Also, my school is nationally ranked in the top 100, so there is no ranking system. I really need some motivation! Please give your feedback!
I have read through your articles and Q & A’s and my question is the same as others however, with maybe a different reason. As a parent who is getting conflicting answers from everyone – including school adm. – my daughter has always maintained a 4.0 GPA. But her high school really pushed us into 4 honors classes her freshman year – current year – and we have dropped below a 4.0. I hear what your telling everyone regarding this question – concentrate on what you want out of the classes not so much what colleges are looking for – however, hoping for some scholorship opportunites – what is the best way to go – Honors diploma with less than 4.0 or Regular diploma with 4.0 or 4.0+ with some weighted classes. Her high school is yelling Honors Diploma all the way. Colleges ‘set aside’ all ‘regular diplomas’ and only look at honors diplomas first. Could you give me a little advice regarding what her high school is saying?
So lets say I have an A in all my other classes and an A- in my Algebra 2 honors class but a B in PE thats messing around with my GPA. Does that mean when a college looks at my GPA they wont hold it against me that I recieved a B in PE?
if my g.p.a is 2.0 is it a good or a bad thing
Hi I’m a sophomore at a difficult high school with a tough curriculum and is wondering that one C in preap algebra on my report card would finish my chances into getting into a college like penn state or UNC.
Hi Christopher. I think you already know the answer to this question: a 2.0 is not nearly as good as a 3.0, and is much, much less good than a 4.0. In the state of Colorado, anything less than a 2.0 will mean that you cannot get into a state college or university. So if you have ambitions to attend college, you had better hit the books.
Hi, RM.
Why did you get a B in PE? The GPA will include your PE grade. But what colleges really care about is the academic classes. They will see the B in PE, but it may or may not bother them all that much. This is not an excuse to ignore your grade in PE, as such grades are more a reflection of attendance, effort, and participation. But colleges care most about performance in academic subjects.
Hello, Teri. Thanks for the comment and the phone call. As I said, an honors class and honors diploma will be considered more rigorous, and therefore more valuable, than a “regular” class or diploma. If you are seeking scholarships, it may depend on the source of those funds. But it is never a good idea to dip down in academic rigor to get the easy A. Money flows to the student who challenge themselves the most–and achieve. Those who set a lower bar for themselves, and leap over it with ease, are not generally the kids who take home the most scholarship money.
All the best.
Hello, Fiza.
Here’s some motivation: if your GPA is taking a downward turn, you will not achieve your goals. No amount of success in extracurricular activities will make up for academic slacking. High school is not over until it’s over. If you have such a bad case of senioritis that your GPA is severely suffering, colleges will take note and make decisions accordingly. So stay focused!
Hi Brittany. Without the full set of numbers, I can’t really answer your question.
Hi, Uyen.
I would have to know a lot more about you and the courses you are taking to be able to assess your chances for Duke and Emory. All I can tell you is to continue challenging yourself and to take the most rigorous courses in which you will succeed.
Best of luck.
Lee,
Colleges of the caliber you are considering will value the IB very highly. I cannot tell you whether you will have the “leg up” you talk about, without knowing a lot more about your school, your peers, your extracurricular activities, and many other qualitative factors. Admissions is not based on the numbers alone.
I’m sorry I can’t be more specific, but I need to know more in order to make such assessments.
Good luck, and keep up the good work!
Dear Eunice,
A single C will not “finish your chances.” Too many other factors come into play in the admissions process. I would need more information about your school, curriculum, grades, and extracurricular activitis to be able to offer anything more specific.
Best of luck!
Hey Mark!
I have a few questions.
*Will 5′s on the AP tests and good SAT scores tone down the impact of many B+’s?
*Going along with the previous question, will a harsh downward trend junior year kill all hope? (My grades are better 1st semester senior year, if that makes any difference)
*How do colleges weigh your GPA if your school doesn’t rank?
Hello, Megan.
To answer your questions:
1. Excellent scores on the AP exams may help mitigate any poorer grades in the corresponding courses: the AP exam result proves you know the material, while the grade may be related to other factors. That said, an A in the course AND a 5 on the AP exam is going to be the best set of results.
2. A “harsh” downward trend is, as you surmise, less than ideal. Will it “kill all hope”? Depends on what you’re hoping for, I guess. Will highly selective colleges ignore the trend? Not likely. Could they overlook it? Maybe. Or maybe not. Other factors will come into play.
3. If your school doesn’t rank, then your school will give other data that will help put your GPA in context of your school. For example, the school might report the average GPA of the senior class. Or it might estimate that you are in the top 10% or top 25% of the graduating class. And if the school reports none of the above, then the admissions officer may compare your results to others that have applied to their college from your school in the past.
Hope this is helpful.
my gpa weighted is a 4.0, and my unweighted is a 3.7. I’m taking 2 AP’s as a sophomore, and all accelerated-level classes. Should I lessen the rigor of my courses as a junior in order to raise my unweighted gpa?
Hi.
1.I am an international student and in our system of education it doesn’t exist the american evaluation. We do not have GPA but average mark from 4.00 to 10.00. Should i complete in the GPA space 10.00 or leave it empty?
2. Are these SAT subject scores good for MIT or chicago? Mathematics level 1-790
Physics-700
Thank you
Hello, AG.
1. You can probably leave the space blank, or put your average in. Either way, it won’t matter much. The university will have to glean your secondary school result from your transcript.
2. Your subject scores are quite good for most any college in the US. However, scores alone do not gain you entrance, as the US has a much more subjective way of evaluating your application.
Good luck!
Hi, Carolyn.
The answer is no. Keep up the rigor–and the good work.
Best of luck.
I have a 3.0 unweighted. and a 3.6 weighted.
On collegeboard when they say _ _% with a gpa from 3.75 and above are accepted, please tell me they are talking weighted…right?
Hi Mark-
My son is currently a sophmore at a top 100 public high school in Florida that prides itself on it’s IB program. Although accepted into IB, my son felt that it was not for him (too rigid)and opted to go the honors/AP route. His freshman year he had a 4.0 UW and 4.10 W GPA with all honors classes in core subjects. This year he has a 4.0 UW GPA for the 1st qtr. (weighted GPA not calculated until end of semester). While he knows that he needs to ramp things up next year and take some AP classes, he’s not sure which ones and how many. He does well in all subjects but English is his real strong-suit and he also really enjoys history. (Math is not his favorite and some sciences he finds interesting).So AP English Comp. is a given for next year and AP English Lit for senior year. He also wants to take AP Psychology junior year because he thinks it will be interesting but he is concerned that it would not be viewed as a core Social Studies course by colleges and should take AP US History instead or in addition. That leads me to my next question…should he try 3 APS junior year and 3 senior year or would 2 junior year be sufficient? He really wants to go to NYU and apply ED..that is why we thought 3 AP’s next year may be neccessary since applying ED, his senior transcripts will not be considered and junior year needs to show that he has challenged himself. However, not having taken any AP yet, is it too risky to jump into 3 AP’s next year?
Hi i only cared about my weighted gpa throughout my highschool career and never really paid attention to the unweighted. So i don’t really know how the unweighted gpa is calculated.. but are the unweighted gpa calculated only from all the grades that you received from freshmen to senior year?
Hello, Reily.
Your unweighted GPA is the average of all grades received from freshman to senior year, with all additional points from honors or AP courses removed.
Best of luck!
Dear Sheri,
Thanks for your comments and questions. It sounds like there are some big choices ahead. I’m afraid I cannot be very helpful in your son’s particular case, as I would need much more information about him and about his priorities–both present and future. It’s nearly impossible for me to choose a number (2 AP courses or 3…or 4…or 1) without having a good, long chat with your son, and without seeing his transcript, the list of colleges he aspires to attend, and the sort of higher education he wants to pursue. There is never a magic number. The decision stems only from your son’s interests and priorities.
I would be delighted to help him sort out these priorities has he registers for courses in the coming year–and beyond–and I do work with kids from all over the country. If you’re interested, don’t hesitate to contact me. I’d love to chat with your son and help him map out his college journey!
Hi, Essjay.
When colleges (or the College Board) post “average GPA” accepted, take their postings with a grain of salt. There may be averages, and these averages may be either weighted or unweighted (and the colleges will rarely specify in their marketing materials). But the average does not apply to you as an individual. Everything else will come into play: are you a legacy? an athlete? a star of the debate team? Do you have perfect SAT or ACT scores?
Do not pay attention to these statistics, as they will only mislead you. Pay more attention to the qualitative considerations as you apply to colleges. If you need help deciphering what those qualitative considerations are in your case, then you may want to consider working with a professional college consultant who can take a look at your qualifications and then identify schools that match those qualifications.
The college admissions process is more art than science. While the College Board website may lead you to believe that there are some solid, objective criteria that colleges use in their admissions process, don’t believe it. This is a subjective process, not an objective one.
Best of luck!
Hello Mark. I am a Sophomore in High School, and so far my grades have been unacceptably low. My freshmen year grades were somewhere in the 1.5-2.0 GPA range, for personal reasons, I just did not focus.
This year my grades are not looking too good either.
First term I got A B B C 3.0 GPA
Second Term is nearly over and it is
B B C D
If I apply myself and do better perhaps get all As and Bs my Junior and Senoir year will some good colleges look past my first two years? Or will they take one glance at my “C”s and “D”s and throw away my application? Im taking University of Maryland-level colleges. Should I retake them in summer school? My parents are very dissapointed in me and im stressing out here
Also all my academic courses are all Honors and one AP.
Hi Mark, I’m a junior at a small private school. I’m in the top 10 percent of my class, but that’s only 140 girls or so. my gpa for freshman and sophmore year was roughly around a 93 W, 92 UW
This year I brought it up to a 96 W 92 UW, taking one AP class and two honor clases. On my SATs, I scored a 2200, but on the one SAT2 I took I scored a 580. I am going to takeanother sat2, because Columbia is my absolute dream school. I’m applying early decision and was wondering what you thought my chances were.. please answer quickly!
Dear Dave,
The answer is that it is never too late to improve your grades and “get with the program.” Colleges know that not everyone gets with the program at the same time–for a whole variety of reasons. So you’re not doomed.
That said, it is good that your recognize that there is a program to “get with,” and that you are asking good questions about the possibility of summer school. I think that if you really bombed out a few courses, you might do well to retake some of them to prove that you actually can do the work–and that you are now with “the program.” You won’t be able to completely erase your poor performance in the past, but you can make some amends.
One question: are you struggling with your grades because of the level of difficulty? Or are you not putting the time in? Or are you putting in the time and effort and not getting the results?
If you are really stressed–and your parents are, too–it might be a good time to talk with a professional educational consultant. Perhaps I can help you get back on track.
Best regards, and thanks for visiting my blog!
Hi, Andrea,
Your chances at Columbia probably will have less to do with your grades and your test scores than with many other qualitative factors, including your school, your zip code, the type of classes you are taking, and the sort of extracurricular activities in which you excel. I applaud your excellent grades in school, and I’m sure you’ll have many college options. Whether you’ll get into Columbia…well, I really can’t say.
I guess you could say that my crystal ball is out of order…!
Let me know if I can help you present your credentials in the best possible light to the Columbia admissions office, and if I can recommend some other great colleges that I think will tickle your fancy.
Thanks for visiting my blog!
Hi. My name is Anna, and I’m a junior at a generally small Silicon Valley public school that generates a multitude of students who go off to Harvard, Stanford, and other top tier schools. My SAT score is, as of now, a 2220 (I’m re-taking it). I have an 800 in SAT II Math (II) and Bio and a 770 in US History. I had a research internship at UCSF and have attended science and leadership conferences over the years. I also founded my own medical club at school and am a part of 2 youth councils (1 at stanford, 1 in the community) and 2 publications (1 at school, 1 in the Bay Area). However, just today, I realized that it is possible that I may get a B in Chinese 3. This might bring my GPA down to a 3.8 on a 4.0 scale. I don’t know if I’m being too much of a worry wart or what, but will this B ruin my chances of getting into Ivy League schools, such as Yale, UPenn, or Princeton?? Thank you!
Hello,
I am a sophomore in highschool. My GPA is currently a 3.75, and I plan to keep it that way or raise it during the rest of my high school career. I go to a very, very challenging private school whose regular curriculum is ahead of that of public schools, and the honors are even more advanced. I am taking all honors & AP classes and I don’t get any boosts for them. I got a 200 in the PPSATs. I want to go to an Ivy League school, but because my school is so rigorous it affects my GPA, making it lower than that of competitors from public schools or easier schools. I’m aiming for Columbia, Cornell, or possibly going to NYU for two years and then transferring to one of the latter colleges. Should I be concerned about my GPA?
Hello, Mark!
I stumbled upon your site while searching for an answer to my question. I am a junior in high school and have consistently been in the top 2% of my class. Due to medical problems, however, I may be forced to start my school year all over again and resort to online schooling. The online school I am interested in offers AP and honors courses, however does not have a weighting system. The public school I went to, however, does have a weighting system. I was just wondering if not having the opportunity of a weighted GPA, even when taking AP and honors classes, will hinder my admission at very selective universities and/or universities at any level because they may see a 4.3 weighted GPA of a competitor, while my GPA may only be 3.7 because the school I would be going to does not weight their classes. Will the colleges realize this and use their own formula to weight my grade “unweight” my competitor’s GPA so that we are on an even playing field for admission? Also, will receiving a nationally/regionally accredited diploma from a national online high school instead of a public school limit the universities I may attend or those would accept the diploma?
Thank you so much for your forthcoming
advice!
Arielle
Hello, Mark.
I have a question that no one seems able to answer. When applying early decision II, which is, for me, January 15th, will the college count the first semester grades of senior year and add into my cumulative gpa?
Hi, Will.
The answer is yes.
Good luck!
Hello, Arielle.
First off, rest assured that most colleges will judge your performance based on what you tell them about your circumstances. If health issues have affected your choices of courses and your performance, make sure you share that information with admissions offices.
Second, your GPA will be judged in the context of the courses you took at your school. You are not compared (consciously, anyway) with the student at another school across town or across the country.
Third, there is never a level playing field. This is not a completely “fair” process. You can either complain about that fact and rail against the injustices in the world. Or you can take allow this understanding of an uneven playing field and liberate yourself from the craziness of comparing GPAs across time and space and just be yourself. Do your best. Enjoy school. Get the grades you want and deserve. LEARN stuff as you go along. Pursue your passions, both inside and outside of school. And don’t be caught up in the belief that if you just raise your GPA by a tenth of a point, or if you just raise your SAT scores by 200 points, or if you just volunteer 5 more hours at that orphanage, that you will automatically get into the college of your dreams. It just doens’t work that way.
So stop stressing! It’s good to know how the game is played. But it’s your choice to decide which aspects of the game you really think are worth playing.
Good luck to you!
Hi Lauren.
You should be concerned about learning stuff in school. You should be concerned about finding the right college for you (the only things Cornell and Columbia have in common is a football league and the state of New York). You should be concerned about finding the things that you love to do…and doing them to the best of your ability.
In the end, you will be judged within the context in which you find yourself. Your GPA will not be compared directly with that of students from across town or across the country. Your GPA will be judged based on your class rank within your school. So if you’re getting a 3.75, but are in only the top half of your graduating class (and there are 35 other students from your school applying to Cornell and Columbia), then your GPA is the least of your worries.
Thus return to the first paragraph of this response. Learn. Enjoy. Find the educational environment that suits you best. Live. Don’t judge your success or failure in life based on whether you get into Columbia or Cornell.
I hope this is helpful. Best of luck to you!
Dear Anna,
Take a nap.
Your B in Chinese will not “ruin” anything. Will it make you stupid? Will it diminish your other accomplishments? Will it sow chaos?
I cannot predict whether you will achieve your goal of Yale, Princeton, or Penn (do you know how different those schools really are??). But I can predict ulcers, insomnia, and a skewed vision of what is important in life if you fixate on that B in Chinese.
Do your best. Do the things you love. It’s all going to work out.
Seriously, take a nap!
Best of luck, Anna.
Hi Mark,
I’m a junior in high school and I’ve already taken the SAT Chinese exam which I got 800 on. It’s kind of a cultural thing at my school where everyone takes the SAT Math exam. However, if I can I’d rather not take the SAT Math exam and take the Chemistry one instead. Do you think not taking the Math exam looks bad to colleges?
Thanks!
Nick