Beware of the Turkey Drop

The “turkey drop” can be one of two things.  It is often referred to when first-year students return home for Thanksgiving break and break it off with their high school sweethearts.  Suddenly the reality of a long distance romance and the temptations of college hit home and they want to return to school without a significant other.
For colleges, the “turkey drop” has a different meaning.  Schools have long identified the term with first-year students who struggle with adjusting to their college or university and return home over the Thanksgiving break to announce that they would like to transfer.  Several students struggle with homesickness or just feel that college was not everything they thought it would be.
USAToday.com published a story on the “turkey drop” phenomenon earlier this month.  The article advises parents to let the student “vent” and realize that doubts are a normal part of the adjustment process.  However, if the doubts persists, it is advisable for the student to obtain help.  Help can range from speaking to an advisor at the institution, such as an academic advisor, resident assistant or a peer mentor.  Formal counseling can also help.
My previous post on the transfer experience can offer insight on the process should a student decide that is the best route for them.  Remember that transferring is a big decision and it is important to explore all of your option before you jump to any conclusions and “drop” your current school.
Katherine Price
Educational Consultant
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Transfer Process: Life Changing or a Big Hassle?

Students sitting back to back in a forest

I recently reconnected with one of my former transfer students via a social networking site. I assisted the student with the transfer admission process at the institution I used to work at and he sent me one of those rare emails where a student reminds me why I wanted to become an educator. He raved about his transfer experience and how the decision to change colleges transformed his life. Fortunately this student had a positive transfer experience, but the transfer process can be tricky. Here are few things to consider:
Start Early: The sooner you contact the institution you are thinking of transferring to the better.

  • Ask what courses you should currently be enrolled in. Some schools want you to have completed as many general education courses as possible.
  • What are the transfer admission policies? Do they admit January transfer students? Can you transfer in your first-year or do you have to wait until you are a sophomore?
  • What are the statistics for admitted transfer applicants? Make sure you meet the average college GPA and standardized test requirements. What do you need to do to improve your profile? What is the transfer acceptance rate? The transfer admission process at some schools can be more competitive than the first-year application process.
  • Completing a transfer application can be just as extensive as completing a first-year application. Find out if the college or university you are interested in uses transfer Common Application or do they have a separate application process. What credentials do you need to submit for the transfer application process?

Show Me The Money:

  • Ask about the availability of financial aid for transfer students. Some schools do have special scholarships available.
  • Transferring academic credits can have a huge financial impact on your decision to transfer. If all of your current credits are not accepted, you may have to delay your graduation timeline. Find out if your current institution has any articulation agreements with schools you are interested in. If not, contact the school you are interested in and see if they have any courses from your current institution that have been previously accepted for credit. This may save you in the long run!
  • FInd out if there is on-campus housing available for transfer students.  If not, what is the cost difference for living off campus?

Deciding to transfer is big decision, but it does not mean that it is the end of your college career. US News & World Report wrote a great article last January on President Obama’s transfer experience. The article talks about how transferring may not be for everyone, but it may also take you places you never imagined!
Katherine Price
Transfer Advocate
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Transferring Colleges, Studying Chinese

During a recent trip to Guangzhou, Guangdong, China, I met a young man from Massachusetts who spoke beautiful Mandarin Chinese. I had lunch with him, and asked him about his educational trajectory.  He mentioned several tantalizing tidbits, including the fact that he had transfered from Boston University to the University of Massachusetts, that his major was in philosophy, and that he had studied Chinese at Fudan University.  He now lives in Beijing, where he works for a prominent educational exchange company.

I asked him if he would share a bit of his educational history on camera, and he agreed.  Here’s a brief clip of our conversation.


Mark Montgomery
Independent College Consultant


Failing Grades at Community College: Will They Kill Me?

help text written on notebook

Sometimes people write with personal questions, seeking advice for their particular situation.

I received one today from a student at a community college who had a couple of failing grades.  Clearly, the student had finally woken up and figured out that getting Fs was not such a great idea.  But with that new understanding, what is a student to do about those Fs?

Here’s the student’s question:

I have 2 Fs in Math 090. This happened when i first started school at a community college. I didnt know how dropping classes worked and i got overwhelmed. Can i still graduate? Can i still go to a university?  Should i start over at another community college, and if i do is it possible that those two Fs will be discovered? 

And here is my response: 

Hi, and thanks for your inquiry.

With regard to graduating from your community college, you need to speak with a student advisor there.  I am sure they have academic counselors, and you should make an appointment with one to discuss your Fs.  The advisor can tell you what you need to do to graduate, as each college has its own rules.  You will likely have to retake the classes to make up the credit (if you haven’t already).  Do not be embarrassed.  What is, is.  You need to know how to proceed from here.

With regard to transferring to another community college, if you plan on transferring any of your current credits to that new college, your Fs will follow you. Unless you start completely over at square one, and do not divulge that you have already attended a college, your Fs will follow you.
I do not recommend this option for ethical reasons.  While it’s not good to fail, it’s worse to lie about it.  Fortunately, you live in the land of Second Chances.

From this point forward, what counts is how you respond to this mistake. If you retake Math 090 and get a good grade–maybe even an A (because you take advantage of every tutoring service and academic support system at your junior college, and you study like crazy)–then four-year colleges may be inclined to overlook your mistakes.  Now, you may not get into Stanford. But with good recommendations, a solid record of success since those dreaded Fs, and other good works in other aspects of your life, you can make a convincing case that you have matured, that you have learned the required mathematics, and that you have made up for your youthful transgressions of the past.

I hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Mark Montgomery
Montgomery Educational Consulting