Greek life - College Admission Counseling https://greatcollegeadvice.com Great College Advice Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:29:49 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 https://greatcollegeadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/758df36141c47d1f8f375b9cc39a9095.png Greek life - College Admission Counseling https://greatcollegeadvice.com 32 32 College Admissions Expert at Stetson University: Is Greek Life for You? https://greatcollegeadvice.com/college-admissions-expert-at-stetson-university-is-greek-life-for-you/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=college-admissions-expert-at-stetson-university-is-greek-life-for-you Fri, 15 Apr 2016 14:29:53 +0000 https://greatcollegeadvice.com/?p=15378 Mark goes to Stetson University and advises those trying to find the right college to consider fraternities and sororities, whether they're something you want to be a part of or not.

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Educational consultant Mark Montgomery goes to Stetson University and advises those trying to find the right college to consider fraternities and sororities, whether they’re something you want to be a part of or not.

 

TRANSCRIPT:

So I’m on the campus of Stetson University here in DeLand, Florida, central Florida. Not too far, about an hour or so, from Orlando. Took a tour today. It was interesting, I asked about fraternities and sororities. As we were going down Sorority Row and I was asking, “Well, how does it work here?” And it’s definitely something that you should think about. If you’re interested in Greek life or not, you should understand that extent, or the organization of the Greek life system at every college. So definitely ask those questions.

Questions about Greek Life

So what did I ask? First I asked, “So how many students, or what percentage or students, are involved in Greek life here?” And I got a couple of different answers. I think the official statistic is about 30%. But then I talked to the student guide and she said “Oh, no, that’s not true; it’s really more like 60%.”

Okay, well, that’s a big difference because if you’ve got 60% of the students are that 40% is not. Then you’re going to have a different experience than if it’s the other way around. Because if you’re deciding you don’t want to be part of that system. You just have to know which side of the balance, does the tail wag the dog or not? So you have to understand that, and you have to get at the bottom of that statistical difference.

Recruitment System

The other thing that she mentioned was that here at Stetson, the rush system. They call it recruitment, they don’t call it rush anymore because that’s politically incorrect and sounds like hazing. But recruitment begins in the fall of the very first semester when you arrive. So as a freshman, you’re eligible to rush or be recruited, by a fraternity or sorority.

So most of the students, because they’re desperate to make friends, are going to jump right into that system. Versus a school, and we were just at Rollins a little while ago, rush or recruitment doesn’t happen until the second semester of the freshman year. Some colleges delay it even until the sophomore year, so you can’t even become a member until your second year. That makes a difference because it’s the pressure.

The social pressure that you may feel when you arrive on campus. To jump into the fraternity or sorority system without really knowing whether that’s something you really want to do. And the other thing is that on a small college campus like this, it’s interesting. There are some colleges that just don’t have any fraternities and sororities. But in a small college like this, like Stetson, it’s a relatively large percentage.

When the good thing about going to a small college is that it’s easier to meet people anyway, without having to divide up into these social groups.

Do You Want to be Part of it?

So as you’re thinking about which colleges to apply to, you need to think about Greek life, you need to think about what it means to you and are you sure you want to be a part of it? If you’re absolutely sure, great. Think about how it’s structured and when the recruitment process begins.

If you’re not interested in it at all, you do want to know how many students, and is it 30%, is it 60%, get to the bottom of that statistic before you sign up and pay your tuition. It’s an important aspect of any campus’s social life. Whether it exists or it doesn’t exist, know what you want and then ask the questions of the people that you meet on the campus.

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Are Fraternities and Sororities Essential Elements of Campus Life? Or Dangerous Anachronisms? https://greatcollegeadvice.com/are-fraternities-and-sororities-essential-elements-of-campus-life-or-dangerous-anachronisms/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=are-fraternities-and-sororities-essential-elements-of-campus-life-or-dangerous-anachronisms Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:41:18 +0000 https://greatcollegeadvice.com/?p=14413 Mark reviews a recent article from The Atlantic about the dangers of belonging to a fraternity. And no, the danger is related to neither alcohol or sex. Read it!

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I went to Dartmouth, where fraternities still dominate the campus social life. For decades, the administration of Dartmouth has grappled with how to deal with the negative–even anti-social–elements of Greek life, while still trying to foster the more positive elements. This has been difficult, as the decades have led to a symbiotic relationship between the College and the Greek system: they both need each other.

Be Sure to Educate Yourself First

A recent article in The Atlantic, entitled, “The Dark Power of Fraternities,” however, made the hair stand up on my arms with horror. Mind you, I was not at all surprised by the juvenile, asinine behavior that takes place within the context of Greek life. I’ve read about this before. Heck, I’ve seen it before.

Rather, what really made me sit up and take notice is how the members of fraternities and sororities are denied insurance protection by the national organizations: insurance that is ostensibly in place to cover risks associated with adolescent lunacy.

I won’t review the entire article here, but I recommend it to any student or parent who is considering allowing their son or daughter to participate in a fraternity or sorority. In fact, I would say it is required reading for such families, so that both parent and child can be clear with one another about behavioral expectations, and what sorts of defensive measures a family must take if (heaven forfend!) some sort of tragedy befalls.
This is serious stuff.

Mark Montgomery
Dartmouth Grad and Educational Consultant

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Pinterest and College Planning? https://greatcollegeadvice.com/pinterest-and-college-planning/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pinterest-and-college-planning Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:00:03 +0000 https://greatcollegeadvice.com/?p=10097 How can Pinterest help you in planning for life after high school? Read more to find out.

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Are you hooked on Pinterest yet? I am! I must admit I have been swept up in the Pinterest craze like a lot of my friends and colleagues and have spent many a recent evening here in Boulder collecting ideas for crafts, recipes, decorating ideas and much more.
For those of you unfamiliar with Pinterest it is touted as an “online pinboard where you can organize and share things you love.”
So, I started thinking. Since higher education has become completely intertwined with all of the other social networking sites out there (Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, blogs, etc) is Pinterest next? I decided to take a look to see what I could find that would be helpful to our high school students and their parents in their planning for college. Here are a few thoughts.
1) Type in the word “dorm” and what will you find? Plenty! Lots of creative ideas for how to decorate and organize your future dorm room (or residence hall as us higher education folks like to call them).
2) Interested in Greek Life? Type in a sorority or fraternity name and you will find tons of Greek letter memorabilia and images to get you excited about rush.
3) Looking at a particular college? Type in the name to see pictures from campus, books related to the college, and much more. Or go a step further and type in the city name or location of the college to see images and information related to that region.
4) Parents, are you planning a graduation party for your senior? Type in “Graduation” and you see everything from graduation themed cupcakes to inspiring quotations to pass on to your future graduate.
5) Wondering how you will keep track of your schedule in college? Looking for creative and eye catching time management tools? Type in “calendar” to find great ideas to organize your schedule from chalkboard calendars to calendars made with recycled buttons.
The possibilities are endless! Give it a try…and watch out, it’s addicting!
Mark Montgomery
Expert Educational Consultant

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Choosing the Best College For You–Considering Greek Life https://greatcollegeadvice.com/choosing-the-best-college-for-you-considering-greek-life/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=choosing-the-best-college-for-you-considering-greek-life Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:51:10 +0000 https://greatcollegeadvice.com/?p=7962 Why is it important to think about the prevalence of fraternities and sororities on campus? An elite wrestler explains his perspective in this short video.

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One of the factors many consider to be central to the college experience in the United States is the social scene created and maintained by fraternities and sororities.  Greek Life is an important aspect to the social life of many college students.
On one of my recent visits to a college campus, I met up with a former student of mine who will soon be a junior.  He is a Division 1 wrestler, and as an athlete he has been discouraged from joining a fraternity.  However, he attends a college that is very heavily Greek.
He explained what that contradiction means in this short video.

 
If you prefer, you can read the transcript below.
Mark Montgomery
Educational Consultant
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Interviewer:       So, hi.
Alex:       Yep.
Interviewer:       Alex, tell me, you’re a division 1 athlete, wrestler.
Alex:       Yep.
Interviewer:       What’s it like being an athlete? When you’re a division 1 athlete, what does that mean for you in college life?
Alex:       It means my college life is mainly academics and athletics.  I told Mark earlier, there’s three points to a triangle in college, you got social, athletics and academics, you only need to succeed at two.  So, one of them’s going to suffer, whether you choose athletics, social, or academics, is your choice, but it’s impossible to get all three, you just don’t have enough time to do it and they have rollover effects, so.
Interviewer:       And you’re an engineering major.
Alex:       Yeah.
Interviewer:       So you’re a little insane?
Alex:       Kind of, yeah.  I enjoy it, it’s fun.
Interviewer:       So tell me, behind you, we have some fraternity houses here and there’s quite a few fraternities on this campus and so, oh, we know where we are now.  So tell me, what percentage, what’s the story that you hear about that the percentage of students who are Greek and then what’s the reality?
Alex:       I think the school says like 30%, but I think they take that before the new pledge class and after the seniors have graduated, so it’s about half, so I think accurately, I think it’s around 60%, I’m making that up, but that’s just from my experience and how many fraternities/sororities I know and how many kids are in them and how many kids go to this school.  So I would say around 60% are in some sort of Greek, whether it’s ones that are here, a few of them have off-campus houses, but are still university sponsored.
Mark:       And are you Greek?
Alex:       No.
Mark:       What does that mean for you, if you’ve got 50, 60% of the students here are in a house, what does that mean for you?
Alex:       I mean, I feel like Greek life fraternities, they provide a group of people to hang out with and do things together, and so if you don’t have that somewhere else, it’s kind of tough, but luckily for me, in the wrestling team, is my fraternity.  A lot of times are spent practicing, but we also hang out together, those living off campus, so that’s, I mean, if you’re not in a fraternity or sorority, you have to have another group of people to be with.
Mark:       So what would you say to someone who really doesn’t know, you know, is a high school student and hasn’t thought very long and hard about this whole fraternity issue.  What would you tell them to think about as they’re trying to make a decision whether they want to go to a campus that’s heavily Greek or to avoid that?  What would you say?
Alex:       I don’t know, I feel like, I’ve never been to a different university that isn’t predominantly Greek, but I feel like even if you go to those schools and at least the ones I talk to, my friends, some of them go to bigger state universities, that aren’t Greek, it still comes down to the same thing, you need a group of people that are, to hang out with, and like the thing a fraternity provides is the people that tend to be very similar interest and exactly like you.  Some people don’t like that, some people like to have a diverse group of friends.  It kind of depends on what you want.  But fraternities/sororities just happen to be people that a lot of times are carbon copies or want to be, so, yeah.

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